everything is going to be affected by this and we've been saying it since the canaan -- nancy pelosi said she had to read the darn thing. >> i know your criticism is they didn't read it before they passed it, but one of the big criticisms here is that there was no cost control in the law, so heree are. >> well, it's going to be that way. health care costs are rising everywhere. it's a universal problem. the thing is the people are going to try to find ways to get around this in the sense that it's going to cost them more and if they can find ways, they'll do it. you got 2200 pages of regulation that you're right, nobody has read. the people who administratorring it haven't read it. they're beginning to read it. we don't know what the ultimate cost is going to be. they're going to be taxes that come out of this, all kinds of other things that happen. in the meantime, if you hire over -- this is what is considered a small business -- if there are 50 people or less, you are subject to one thing. if you're hiring re than 50 people, you are subject to something else. if those people work